leadership. so speaker john boehner is going to be a lonely guy. >> i think the republicans ought to hold firm against any tax rates. president obama is striding around like he has a mandate for tax hikes but look at house republicans. for 20 years the house republican message has been against any tax hikes. voters now where house republicans were on taxes and tax hikes and the republicans retain their large majority so they absolutely ought to hold out against any tax hikes. >> that's a stalemate. >> speaker boehner has said close some loopholes. okay. there are good loopholes and bad ones. the house republicans ought to make sure that there is at least 3 or $4 of every spending cut for every dollar of loophole closing. >> there is no spending cuts. >> that's the thing. they have got to hold firm against that. >> they're talking about 400, $500 billion in revenues, maybe more. that's the republicans obsession. i didn't hear any spending cuts at all. >> the loopholes -- cuts in military spending. >> they won't do it. >> president obama has gone along with that. >> but the republicans won'